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 DR LOVE:
 DR LOVE: Wally, can you discuss the implications of the EORTC-08993 
  trial that evaluated the impact of PCI on the reduction of symptomatic 
  brain metastases for patients with extensive-disease SCLC who responded 
  to chemotherapy (Slotman 2007; [4.1])?
 DR CURRAN:  My concern with this study is that the patients did not undergo 
  meticulous restaging, including brain scans at baseline. At the recent RTOG 
  meeting, we discussed the possibility that these patients were being treated for 
  subclinical brain metastases. I am not comfortable with a randomized trial in 
  which you don’t evaluate the brain before you treat it. I have to assume there’s 
  a 10 to 25 percent risk of subclinical disease. Also, their definition of chemotherapy 
  response to continue on to the randomization was not particularly 
  rigorous.
  DR CURRAN:  My concern with this study is that the patients did not undergo 
  meticulous restaging, including brain scans at baseline. At the recent RTOG 
  meeting, we discussed the possibility that these patients were being treated for 
  subclinical brain metastases. I am not comfortable with a randomized trial in 
  which you don’t evaluate the brain before you treat it. I have to assume there’s 
  a 10 to 25 percent risk of subclinical disease. Also, their definition of chemotherapy 
  response to continue on to the randomization was not particularly 
  rigorous.
The positive results are an interesting observation, but it is not up to American clinical research standards. The magnitude of survival benefit is puzzling. 
How can the survival benefit be greater than in limited disease?
 
   DR HANNA:  I agree with Wally about the criticism that they should have 
  obtained baseline brain imaging studies on all patients. However, if the patient 
  met certain criteria that raised suspicion of brain metastases, they did require 
  baseline brain imaging. They didn’t tell us how many patients had undergone 
  baseline brain imaging, which would have been useful. There was also 
  an imbalance in the proportion of patients who had other sites of metastases, 
  presumably liver and adrenal, which was worse in the observation arm.
  DR HANNA:  I agree with Wally about the criticism that they should have 
  obtained baseline brain imaging studies on all patients. However, if the patient 
  met certain criteria that raised suspicion of brain metastases, they did require 
  baseline brain imaging. They didn’t tell us how many patients had undergone 
  baseline brain imaging, which would have been useful. There was also 
  an imbalance in the proportion of patients who had other sites of metastases, 
  presumably liver and adrenal, which was worse in the observation arm.
The problem I have isn’t that the study is not provocative and we probably 
  ought to be doing it for some patients; it’s that the author’s conclusion was PCI 
  is now the standard practice for all patients with extensive-stage SCLC who 
  are responding. If you have a patient with liver and adrenal metastases that has 
  some response to initial chemotherapy, it’s ridiculous to use PCI.
 DR LOVE:  Describe the patient whom you would treat with PCI.
  DR LOVE:  Describe the patient whom you would treat with PCI.
 DR HANNA:  I would use it with the patient who is free of bulky liver, adrenal 
  or bone metastases or the patient who has an excellent response to chemotherapy 
  and based on clinical intuition is going to survive for a while. Those 
  are the patients who will suffer from symptomatic brain metastases.
  DR HANNA:  I would use it with the patient who is free of bulky liver, adrenal 
  or bone metastases or the patient who has an excellent response to chemotherapy 
  and based on clinical intuition is going to survive for a while. Those 
  are the patients who will suffer from symptomatic brain metastases.
 DR GRECO:  I believe selected patients can benefit, and this study would support 
  that. Most studies — even the large trials — don’t tell us about individual 
  patients. You use that information in the context of the patient you see in your 
  office that day. You don’t just say, “This study showed a survival benefit, so I’m 
  going to use this therapy for every patient with extensive-stage SCLC.”
  DR GRECO:  I believe selected patients can benefit, and this study would support 
  that. Most studies — even the large trials — don’t tell us about individual 
  patients. You use that information in the context of the patient you see in your 
  office that day. You don’t just say, “This study showed a survival benefit, so I’m 
  going to use this therapy for every patient with extensive-stage SCLC.”
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