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| You are here: Home: LCU 4 | 2006 : Alan B Sandler, MD  
 
 Select Excerpts from the Interview Track 8  DR LOVE: When you presented the data from ECOG-E4599 in 2005 (Sandler 2005), one of your concluding comments was that first-line carboplatin, paclitaxel and bevacizumab is a new standard of care for NSCLC patients who would have been eligible for the study. Do you still feel that way? 
 We did not specifically look at quality of life in the study, but it appears that other nonspecific toxicities, such as fatigue, were not increased and that quality of life in fact improved, because in virtually every other study that has shown an improvement in survival, quality of life has been better. 
 
 Track 4  DR LOVE: Can you discuss the data that you presented at ASCO 2006 on pulmonary hemorrhage in patients treated with bevacizumab in the study? 
 We looked at 22 patients with Grade III or higher pulmonary hemorrhage. Not surprising with the limited number of patients, nothing was statistically significant, but there appeared to be trends for patients with baseline cavitation in their tumors and a history of hemoptysis that predated treatment.  DR LOVE: Hemoptysis wasn’t allowed in the study, correct? 
  DR LOVE: Oncologists are interested in whether location — peripheral versus proximal — was a factor, and I would also be interested in whether a correlation
          appeared with tumor bulk. 
 In our study, we had an independent radiology group examine all the individual CAT scans — so they were all independently reviewed — and size and location did not seem to matter. We saw a hint that endobronchial disease might be an issue, although that was not statistically significant and it is a very difficult interpretation on a CAT scan, and the results were inconsistent across all the CAT scans and techniques. Track 9  DR LOVE: Can you update us on the erlotinib/bevacizumab combination
          data that were presented at ASCO? 
 We saw a 20 percent response rate, a roughly seven-month progression-free survival and a 12.5-month median survival (Sandler 2004), but because it was a Phase I/II limited-institution study, a subsequent larger-scale randomized Phase II study was conducted that involved 120 patients and was presented at ASCO (Fehrenbacher 2006). This study had three arms: Bevacizumab in combination with either chemotherapy (docetaxel or pemetrexed) or erlotinib compared with chemotherapy alone. An improvement in progression-free survival favored the two bevacizumab arms. It was three months on the chemotherapy alone arm and roughly four and a half months on the two bevacizumab arms — 4.4 months with erlotinib and 4.8 months with chemotherapy (1.1). Track 10  DR LOVE: Would it be correct to say that you observed the same results
          by adding erlotinib to bevacizumab as with adding chemotherapy to
          bevacizumab? You would expect fewer side effects with the double
          biologic therapy than with chemotherapy and bevacizumab. 
 The second point is that it now provides evidence that a non-chemotherapy based approach in the second-line setting consisting of erlotinib and bevacizumab might prove to be equivalent to chemotherapy. A large Phase III study of more than 600 patients is evaluating erlotinib alone versus erlotinib and bevacizumab in the second-line setting (OSI3364g). 
  DR LOVE: From the practical or clinical perspective of a physician in practice,
          what are the implications of these data?   In clinical practice, this combination would be a bit of a reach at this point. It would be intriguing for those patients who are selected for the use of erlotinib — nonsmokers, Asian patients, patients with EGFR mutations, FISH-positive cases, et cetera. In our Phase I/II study there was a hint that this combination was working in patients with and without EGFR mutations, smokers and nonsmokers. That has not been broken out yet for the randomized Phase II study, but it’s possible that the combination may allow for the use of the EGFR agent in a broader range of patients.  DR LOVE: What is seen in terms of side effects and toxicity with this biologic
          doublet, both in terms of data and your own clinical experience?   
 Track 12  DR LOVE: I want to get your take on a couple of new developments in
          lung cancer clinical research. What are your thoughts about ZD6474, or
          vandetanib? 
 Ron Natale presented a study of ZD6474 compared to gefitinib and demonstrated an improvement in time to progression with ZD6474 (Natale 2006). John Heymach from MD Anderson presented another study evaluating docetaxel with or without ZD6474, which also showed an improvement in time to progression with the combination, favoring a lower dose in that setting (Heymach 2006).  DR LOVE: Is ZD6474 sort of the oral tyrosine kinase inhibitor version of your
          doublet of erlotinib and bevacizumab?   The interesting aspect is that apparently, depending on the dose, you may see one effect over the other. At 100 mg, the effect appears to be more of an anti-angiogenic one, and that may explain why in combination with chemotherapy the lower dose seems to be better, but the higher dose when used on its own, which has both effects, seems to be better than the lower dose.  DR LOVE: Where do you think we will be heading with this agent? Will we
          be using it in clinical practice in the near future, and if so, where and how?   
 
 
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